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If Brian and Harry are willing to concede that the economics of nationalized coal made no sense, I ask, why do they continue to maintain that Thatcher's policies were misguided?
Brian suggests that I am looking at it the wrong way: I am prioritizing economic efficiency, a typical American failing. “What I'm saying is,” he says, “where Thatcher goes wrong, she sees it in solely economic terms. If the market is all, and the workers are unprotected—there's a feeling about protecting your poor, which you feel fundamentally in the writings of Jefferson, you feel fundamentally in the writings of Thomas Paine, even more, and the inspiration of America, which you don't feel now. You know. So, and Thatcher is of that ilk, I think.”
We digress for a while, arguing (in a good-natured way, they are both good sports) about American history and the American trade union movement. Then I steer the discussion back to the impact of Thatcher's policies. “Some of the questions can't be answered,” says Brian, “because in one sense, the world is moving on very rapidly. But I don't think she was a long-term planner at all. She was good for a scrap in the Falklands, right? Yeah.”
“Yeah. There ain't any bloody planners. I mean, we were good for a scrap in bloody Iraq!” adds Harry.
“We were!” Brian agrees.
“But we're not good at fuckin' ‘What do we do after that?'” says Harry. “No exit strategy at all there! If you go down to Airedale now, there's still a similar educational standard to what when I were goin' to the pit, as it were. But there's no bloody pits
now, are there? . . . If me father came back and saw that, he wouldn't believe it. He wouldn't believe what had come here before it, and now it were gone, as it were. I'm just wondering, if there's this big change in my generation, how big a change is there going to be in the next generation? Is it gonna be a lot better? You know, it's all right saying there's wealth and prosperity. There's a lot of kids down there that are wealthy and prosperous. You need to be. But there's a lot of kids down there that are stuck, almost like bloody Victorian kids with their faces pressed up against the window. 'Cause they ain't got the bloody money to use it, anyway. But it looks nice. So yeah, if you go down, like I said, down there, there's a lot more crime, corruption, thieving. It woulda been almost unheard of, in my early life. Drug problems. Drink problems.”
“To what do you attribute the rise in crime, thieving, drugs, drink?” I ask.
“Lack of work. Lack of vision. Lack of some aim in life.”
“Why is there no aim in life?”
“Because aspirations aren't there. It's all right if you're born in a middle-class family that's got aspirations. Education is a thing you get directed at. Education for its own benefit, to start with. But then towards your own future in life. When you're born to a miner that's never worked for the last twenty years, what's your aspiration there? What's your incentive? Where do you get your lead from, as it were? The only place you get it is from outside.”
“If the mines were still there, would there be any aspiration other than to work as a miner?”
“Um—there'd a been some. There'd a been some. Not all miners produce miners' sons. A lot of miners advocated, ‘You'll work anywhere but in here.'”
“So why isn't that still the case?” I ask. “I'm not convinced yet that this has anything to do with the pit closures. You're talking about lack of aspiration, you're talking about alcoholism. And I can see the alcoholism just getting off at the train station—”
“Yeah, but you're comin' from a direction with no bloody knowledge of such things, I should think.”
“Which direction is that?” I ask.
“Well, you're a middle-class, educated person.”
In Britain, this line is used as a conversation-stopper. As one British woman from a working-class background put it to me, when it comes to political debate, being from the working classes functions like a Get Out of Jail Free card. The card does not work well on Americans who are indifferent to the British class structure, however, and more to the point, if I were coming from a direction with a lot of bloody knowledge of these things, why would I bother to come all the way to Yorkshire to ask
his
opinion about them? “That's why I'm asking you to explain it to me,” I say.
To his credit, Harry laughs. “You got—not just a family, not just an extended family. You got a village, a town, an area that's grown up with a certain aspect in life, a certain thing that is almost set in bloody stone. That's what you do. And all of a sudden it's not. It's not what you do. But the education system . . . it's the same quality, I may be wrong, but I don't think I am. There's nobody from Airedale school going to college. There's certainly none going to bloody university. There's no drive towards getting 'em there. There's no drive to getting anything further than sixteen. You come out of school at sixteen, and you're either looking for a low-skilled, low-wage job somewhere, or you're going nowhere, because your father's not worked for twenty years. He may not have worked for ten years, he may not have worked for five years. But certainly the direction that you're getting from your family would be little.”
“How do you fix that?”
“How do you fix that? It's going to take bloody time. And education.”
“But how do you get education, if no one in your family is telling you, ‘Get an education'?”
“It's true. It's a bloody hard point, is that.”
I am sympathetic to the point he is making. Middle-class people tend to value education. But the arrow of causality goes in two directions. People who value education tend to become middle-class.
I don't know what the solution is. No one does, if they are honest. I certainly can see this issue from his side. The men whose fathers and grandfathers powered the industrial revolution in Britain—men who spent their lives crouched in those filthy mines—were told that they were no longer needed or valued. Many of them were close to retirement age, well past the age when people naturally learn new skills, take new risks, become entrepreneurs. They were given incomprehensible speeches about monetarism and market economics. They weren't asking, in their view, for something unreasonable—just for the right to earn a living by their own labor in the only way they knew how.
Which image is more repugnant? Is it that of a middle-aged man, his body wrecked from a life of hard labor, being told that he must now find a new job, a new city, a new way of life far from his friends and from everything he and his family have ever known?
Or is it the image of Harry, at the bottom of a coal mine, tracing images in dust on the wall with his finger?
It has been a pleasant morning, and I have greatly enjoyed speaking to Brian and Harry. But finally I say it: Harry's life hardly seems to me an irrefragable argument against Thatcherism. They have been telling me that Thatcher's policies were a disaster. If they want me fully to appreciate what they mean, I need to meet someone who isn't doing so well.
They decide to introduce me to Johnny. Johnny, Harry explains, was a ripper. The ripper is a ripper of rock. “Basically, you're blowing that rock face, charging it with explosives, you're blowing it down, and you're shifting it with a gang of five, usually, shifting that with shovels. Johnny were a guy with a shovel that shifted this bloody rock every day.
Hated
it with a vengeance. You know,
the conditions were the thing that bothered him up. The dust. The water. And the heat, the temperature were . . . tropics with dust, muck. So not very good conditions.”
“No,” I agree.
“So he hated that with a vengeance. And I'll allus remember when the pits closed, 'cause he were one that would say, ‘I wish they'd blow this bloody pit up.' And I bet within six months of'em closing the pit, the next conversation I had with him: ‘If they were openin' Fryston tomorra, I'd dig it out with a bloody teaspoon.'”
Thus did we set out to find Johnny the Ripper in his garden allotment in the Yorkshire countryside.
Johnny, I had to concede after meeting him, is not doing well.
Yorkshire, Middle o' Nowhere:
CB:
Johnny, can I ask you, how old are you?
Johnny:
Sixty-five this year.
CB:
And so where were you during the miners' strike?
Johnny:
Erm, Nottingham, flyin' picketin'.
CB:
You were a flying picket?
Johnny:
Yeah, we did Orgreave . . . 'Ave you 'eard anything about it?
CB:
I've heard a lot about it. You're a legend.
Johnny:
Oh, well.
CB:
So were you a miner your whole life?
Johnny:
Yeah. Twenty . . . thirty-one years at it.
[
Rooster crows in background
]
CB:
When you think of the strike, what's the first word that comes to mind?
Harry:
Poor.
Johnny:
It weren't you know, like, I wouldn't a missed it, it were, you know, like, I saw more o' ta country in that twelve
months 'tan I seen in all me life, you know—you know what I mean, I mean, everywhere were different, I mean, we went inta Nottingham, I've never been in Nottingham before—I mean, you know, it's only sixty mile away, innit, you know—
CB:
So how did you come to be a flying picket? Who approached you?
Johnny:
Well, I were union, you know . . .
CB:
Right. And they said, “We need flying pickets. Would you like to be one?”
Johnny:
And we went to union meeting, all go'd, all volunteered. Most o' the people went.
CB:
And so were you paid to—
Johnny:
A pound.
Brian:
A pound per day.
CB:
And did they pay your expenses, too?
Johnny:
Uh, the person that 'ad the car, got the petrol money.
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CB:
Right. And how long in advance did they tell you where you needed to be?
Johnny:
Uh, the mornin'.
CB:
In the morning they'd say, “We need you to go to—”
Johnny:
Yeah. Because our place and our phones were bugged and everything, yeah.
CB:
So you were at Orgreave.
Johnny:
Yeah, I were at Orgreave, yeah.
CB:
Tell me how you remember that. When did you realize—
Johnny:
It were 'airy! You know, it were really, you know—
CB:
Were you expecting it to be?
Johnny:
Well, we were just, you know, our police, you know they were all tappin' their shields like Zulus, you know?
CB:
Like what?
Johnny, Harry:
Like Zulus!
Johnny:
You know that film,
Zulu
—you know when all those Zulus were all tappin' their shields?
Brian:
Their truncheons against their shields—
CB :
Right.
Harry:
And the police were goin' bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, ba-bom—
Johnny:
bom, bom, bom, bom, bom!
CB:
And so you were already there, on the picket line, when the police arrived—
Johnny:
Police arrived? It were an army!
CB:
OK, so the army arrives, but you were there already—
Johnny:
They 'ad us penned in a field. We couldn't get out! They were a world round me, just herded us into here, and we couldn't get out, and I mean, summat lunged out, and I didn't see, and I went in the old out-and-bottom, some-un of us jumped out and ran, and there were dogs after 'em,'orses, and, you know, arrested, and—I were OK, I were in the middle o' it, there were a big lad runnin', Teddy—
Harry:
Carl.
Johnny:
Carl. Carl, not Teddy. And I mean this copper, you know'e were a big lad, and [
smacks fist
]—like that. 'E went straight down, everybody cheered! But you know, they just got 'im and arrest 'im. You know, there weren't many, they had it all sewn up—
Harry:
They had a plan.
Brian:
It was a trap, wasn't it. Orgreave was a trap.
CB:
When did you realize it was a trap? Did you think so at the time?
Johnny:
No, after. You know, we thought it wouldn't last, you know, a week. I mean, '72 were five week, '74 were seven week, and maybe, nothing as long as that, twelve, or eleven, or—but not twelve months.
CB:
At what point in the big strike did you realize something different was happening, when did you start to realize this was really part of history—
Johnny:
Never. We just carried on, you know, 'til it were finished. And it kept going.
CB:
What happened to you after the strike?
Johnny:
Well, I took redundancy, yeah. I handed in my papers, and I didn't want nought to do with it. And I wanted everybody to do the same.
Harry:
That were after the pit closed.
Johnny:
Ay?
Harry:
That were after the pit closed.
Johnny:
No, the pit were open.
Harry:
Ay.
Johnny:
You know when we went back, I handed on my papers. I said, this is no job! Handed 'em in I'd a got sacked, because they said “I want you to go and drive this machine.” Says I, I've lost my confidence, I don't want to drive anymore, I wanted everyone to do that—
Harry:
That's so right.
Johnny:
You know, this other guy said, they said, go put that Airedale up—
CB:
Go put that what up?
Johnny, Harry:
Air door. Ventilation.
Johnny:
You know, he says, “Put that air door up,” and I says, “I'm a miner, not a joiner.” You know. He says, “If you don't put it up, you got to go home,” so I says, so I went home. I'd had enough. That were it for me. But there was only me doing it. One day, I came off the face, they says, they're sending [unintelligible] on, do you remember that, little kid—daft as a bush, 'e were!
Harry:
That one were out of it, weren't he!
[
They fall about laughing; I'm lost
.]
Johnny:
What were the manager, then? That little bloke—
Harry:
Not the bloody one that came from college—a Geordie—
Johnny:
No, that weren't him. Belford.
CB:
What made Scargill so popular? Why did people follow Scargill?
Johnny:
He were a good speaker, weren't 'e?
Harry:
He were a good speaker.
Johnny:
I mean, 'e told 'em what they wanted to 'ear, but . . .
C
B:
When you saw him speak, was there something in particular he said that really moved and impressed you?
Johnny:
Everything 'e said. 'E was my 'ero.
CB:
Pardon?
Johnny:
Were my 'ero.
CB:
Was he?
Johnny:
Yep.
CB:
Is he still your hero?
Johnny:
I think so.
CB:
You don't feel like he let you down?
Johnny:
No. I think a lot of people did.
Harry:
A lot of people did.
Johnny:
But I don't think he did. I mean, they blackened 'is name that much, didn't they, blackened 'is name that much—you know, everybody, the press did it, the media did it. Crikey . . . You want a beer? [
goes to fridge, passes beer around, sound of flip-tabs opening
]
Brian:
No more, honestly, I'm alright.
Johnny:
You all havin' one?
CB:
Thank you.
Harry:
Cheers.
CB:
Cheers.
Johnny to Brian:
Are you sure?
Brian:
Yes, yes, thank you.
Johnny:
You don't like beer?
CB:
When you say Scargill was your hero, did you ever think about his being a Marxist—
Johnny:
No.
CB:
Did that—were you a Marxist as well? Or was it just not that important?
Johnny:
Well I vote BNP now.
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CB:
You vote BNP now? Why do you vote for them?
Johnny:
Eh?
CB:
Why do you vote for them?
Johnny:
'Cause I don't like Tony Blair. 'E's give this country away, hasn't he? Don't you think so? 'E's give this country away. Give it away to Muslims.
[
Finds a BNP leaflet, passes it around
]
Johnny:
Everything it says in there, I believe in it.
Harry:
Yeah?
Johnny:
Yep.
CB:
But the BNP is—
Johnny:
He's gonna sell this bloody country away. What a man. Worst man since Hitler then.
Brian:
Tony Blair?
Johnny:
Yeah. 'Orrible.
Brian:
Worse than Thatcher?
Johnny:
Eh?
Brian:
So where do you see Thatcher, then?
Johnny:
Well, she knackered
us
up.
CB:
Do you think she was good for the country overall?
Johnny:
Hmmm. I got me own house now through her. Only a pit house, that, but I own it. And I never'd owned if she hadn't got in. I don't think anybody else woulda done it, uh. Maybe they would have. I mean, if I had had a chance, I'd a shot her.
Brian:
Every miner would've shot her.
Harry:
I'll get drunk when she leaves. [
Gestures at vegetable patch
] I mean, this is what we got left now.
[
Rooster crows
]
Harry:
After the strike, after the pit closed, they went from pit to pit, it were. The life we had, weren't it, you know—
Johnny:
Yeah.
Brian:
Your wife went to Russia, toured about with Scargill to Russia, didn't she—
Johnny:
Yeah, she toured around—
CB:
With Scargill? To Russia?
Johnny:
Yeah, but Mrs. Scargill went.
CB:
Mrs. Scargill went with your wife?
Johnny:
Well, there were about two or three 'undred of 'em. [
loud belch
]
CB:
And when was this?
Johnny:
All of 'em worked in kitchens, were kitchen women.
CB:
Who paid for that?
Johnny:
Miners. Russian miners.
Harry, Brian:
Miners. Russian miners.
CB:
Well, how did the Russian miners pay for it?
Johnny:
Hmmmm.
Brian:
Well, union, union fees!
Johnny:
Or whatever. I don't know.
Harry:
Generous people.
Brian:
It would be union fees. I don't think it would be the government.
Harry:
No, it weren't the government.
Brian:
The union fees—
CB:
You seriously think the Russian miners just gave up money, out of their salaries, to—
Harry:
Yes, of course.
Johnny:
Yeah.
Brian:
Of course. No problem. I don't—honestly, Claire.
Harry:
We'd a done the same for 'em.
Brian:
Miners is miners.
Harry:
I mean, miners is not just a national thing, it's an international thing.
Johnny:
I mean, the unions paid for it. Playin' fair. You know . . .
C
B:
OK, look. How, out of Russian rubles, Soviet rubles at the time, which were not convertible—
Johnny:
They were sendin' food parcels over.
Harry:
Sending food parcels, there's a lot o' bloody food there—
CB:
And you really think this was from the Russian miners and not the Soviet government?
All:
It was!
Johnny:
It wasn't from the government.
Brian:
Don't concentrate on Russia. You're concentrating on Russia. Australia did it—
Johnny:
Yep.
Brian:
You got, anywhere which had got coal mines would be sending union—
Harry:
If they could afford it, they'd be sending it—food parcels, or some donation, towards—
Brian:
Yes. French miners, Belgian miners—
Harry:
German miners—
[
Rooster crows
]
CB:
Why did the unions agree to go along with the pit closures before Thatcher? I mean, there were a lot of them under Labour, too.
Harry:
There weren't a lot of pit closures under Labour.
CB:
Do you think Thatcher wanted to destroy the coal industry?
Brian:
I don't think she could bloody understand it.
Harry:
She wanted to destroy the unions.
CB:
She wanted to destroy the unions so much that she was willing to sacrifice the coal industry—
All:
Yes, yes—
Brian:
It was the unions [
all talking, unintelligible
]—
Johnny:
And at the top of the unions was miners, so once you got miners, you got it—
CB:
Why do you think she hated the unions so much?
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