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Authors: Raymond E. Fowler,J. Allen Hynek

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Joseph:
What is the great door?

Betty:
It is the entrance into the other world. The world where light is.

Joseph:
Is that available to us as well as to you, Betty?

Betty:
No, not yet.

Joseph:
Is it available to you?

Betty:
Yes.

Joseph:
Do you understand what is on the other side of the great door?

Betty:
Yes, I understand and believe in it.

Joseph:
Can you help us to understand?

Betty:
If you will accept it.

Joseph:
Will they permit you to guide us?

Betty:
No, they want to guide.

David:
Betty, we would like to try, then, to pursue this truth. We would like you to go back again to the evening of the incident.… Pick up the story where, ah, Joohop was taking your mother and father to bed. Do you remember that point?

Betty:
I remember it, Dave, but I can't go back there right now.

David:
You can't?

Betty:
They have my hands and my feet and my legs.

Joseph:
Are you being requested to continue the conversation?

Betty:
It must be, because they're applying more pressure on my hands and my feet.

David:
Okay, then. You don't have to go back right now.

Jules:
The twenty-four zero, zero, continuous zeros. Is that in miles, meters, light-years?

Betty:
It is in sunbursts.

Joseph:
What does the term “sunburst” mean, so we can understand it?

Betty:
It is something about the darkness that is left there after the sun has been exploded, I guess, or something or other. I don't know. [
Weakly
] They won't tell me.

Jules:
Are they referring to our sun as we know it?

Betty:
Yes, our sun. Sunbursts.

Jules:
Is the sun a key to the truth?

Betty:
Yes.

Joseph:
Is this sun explosion in the future or in the past?

Betty:
The future and the past are the same as today to them.

Joseph:
Does time exist?

Betty:
Time to them is not like our time, but they know about our time.

Joseph:
They recognize time as our dimension, but they have something else, through time?

Betty:
Yes, they can reverse time.

Joseph:
They can reverse our time?

Betty:
Uh-huh.

Fred:
Are the beings able to come here again?

Betty:
They travel freely. They travel freely throughout our whole earth.

David:
Can they travel inside the earth?

Betty:
Yes, their density is much different, although they have metals that they cannot penetrate. They have to have those metals.

David:
Are those metals in the earth?

Betty:
[
Softly
] Some of them.

David:
Is that one reason they're here?

Betty:
Mmm, no. But some of the metals in the earth are enough to carry man to where they are. Then, when they get to their certain station, they are able to subtract ores from that planet for the use of going on further.

David:
Have they been visiting the earth for very long?

Betty:
Since the beginning of time.

Joseph:
Our time?

Betty:
Yes.

David:
Can they travel freely throughout the stars?

Betty:
Certain ones.

David:
Are these stars nearby to the sun and the earth?

Betty:
Yes, and they are beyond.

David:
What do you mean by “beyond”?

Betty:
Beyond ours there are others, but they are in a different plane. They're in a heavier space.

David:
What do you mean by “a heavier space”?

Betty:
They're in a heavier space than we are.

Joseph:
Why are they restricted to some stars and not others?

Betty:
Why are we restricted to earth and able to go only to certain stars, and not others?

Joseph:
Is that the answer or is that another question?

Betty:
That is the answer and the question.

Joseph:
Betty, do they have enemies as we have enemies?

Betty:
There is one planet that is an enemy, and also many men are enemies, only because they do not understand.

Joseph:
Men of this earth, you mean?

Betty:
Yes.

David:
Betty, are there many of these clans or races visiting the earth right now from many planets?

Betty:
Yes.

David:
How many?

Betty:
Seventy.

David:
Seventy different planets or races?

Betty:
Races.

David:
Do these races work together?

Betty:
Yes, except for the offensive one.

Joseph:
They come from different planets, then? They don't come from the same planet? Is that correct?

Betty:
Some. Some come from realms where you cannot see their hiding place. Some come from the very earth.

Joseph:
This very earth?

Betty:
Yes, there is a place on this very earth that you do not know of.

Fred:
Can they see the future?

Betty:
Definitely.

Fred:
Can they tell whether we are going to come up with an answer?

Betty:
The answer is here already.

Joseph:
When will we recognize it in our time?

Betty:
When you give your heart over.

Joseph:
Does that mean that each individual being will recognize it at a different period?

Betty:
When the heart is given over, each one will see it.

Jules:
When the heart is given over to what?

Betty:
To love and truth.

Joseph:
Does that mean that some people have already seen this since many, many years gone by, and some will never see it?

Betty:
Yes, and it is sad, because it was there for all mankind.

Fred:
Betty, what is your personal function in revealing this?

Betty:
They said that they have chosen me to reveal it because of the initiation, because of going through what I had gone through, because it was planned.

Jules:
Why were you chosen?

Betty:
Because I did not object.

David:
Betty, have other people like yourself been involved in being taken on board their craft and examined?

Betty:
Yes, but they quiet them. They tell them to be still. It's hidden within them. As time goes by, mysteries are going to be unlocked from man. These people are very afraid.

David:
Did they tell you how many such cases there have been of people being taken on board?

Betty:
Many, many, many, many, many. Many, many cases. Many, but only a few have gone to the fullness.

David:
Have some of these people been taken back to the planets of the beings? Have some earth people been taken back?

Betty:
Yes, and they're going to return, and people are going to be afraid because of it.

David:
Were you taken to their home planet?

Betty:
[
Long pause and weak voice
] I was taken to the high place, higher than their home planet.

David:
You mean a more important planet?

Betty:
It is not a planet, it is a
place
.

Because Betty was showing signs of fatigue, Harold released her from the hypnotic trance, and we proceeded to question her. We were curious as to why she had not remained reliving the past as she had been instructed.

Joseph:
How did you get back to today? You were back 10 years ago.

Betty:
I know. I was back there in the living room, and suddenly I was in here.

Joseph:
Was that because of our questions, or don't you know?

Betty:
I don't know.

David:
Betty, I tried to get you back to the time of the blue book, and you felt that
they
wouldn't let you?

Betty:
I couldn't.

David:
You couldn't? You felt that they were preventing you?

Betty:
Uh-huh.

It seemed as if the aliens had prevented us from learning certain information by intervening directly in Harold's office!

David:
What else did you feel at that time?

Betty:
Just that they had hold of me and they pressured me. Somehow—holding me down. It was pressure.

David:
That was in addition to the weight in your arms and legs. Was that with you at other times when you were under hypnosis?

Betty:
No, at certain times.

David:
During these times, was it at all similar to the weight you felt in the craft?

Betty:
Yeah.

David:
Do you feel as if that weight is an indication of them controlling you somehow?

Betty:
Yes.

Joseph:
Would that be an indication that
every time
you feel that weight, you are getting a message directly from them?

Betty:
I don't know, ‘cause I don't feel that weight. I didn't feel that weight when I was lying down.

Joseph:
But that was communicated to you directly. In all other cases when you felt the weight, you were communicating to other people. You were communicating with
us
.

Betty:
Yes.

Joseph:
Perhaps, when you are talking to us, you are being used as a translator. You are conveying a message.

Betty:
This isn't a message to me.

Joseph:
It isn't?

David:
Is it a message to us?

Betty:
It must be. It isn't to me.

Jules:
Do you remember anything about this alien planet?

Betty:
No.

Jules:
You just know somehow that it was alien to the beings?

Betty:
They said there is one planet that is alien.

Jules:
It is hostile toward them?

Betty:
Yes.

David:
Do you feel that we are on the right track, as far as our questions go? Trying to get them to talk to us through you? Do you feel that they want that to happen?

Betty:
I don't know.

Joseph:
Did you feel uncomfortable during that?

Betty:
Just when they put the pressure on me, or whatever it is.

Joseph:
Do you feel mentally comfortable?

Betty:
No, I feel tired.

Joseph:
Yes, but that's because of hypnosis.

Harold:
How are you feeling, Betty?

Betty:
Pretty good.

David:
Do you have any apprehension right now about us trying to regress you to a time immediately after the incident so that we can pursue information about the blue book?

Betty:
No, I don't have any problem.

David:
But at the time, you felt that they were preventing you from going back.

Betty:
I couldn't go back.

Joseph:
Was that because in asking the questions, we reverted you back to
now
?

Betty:
I don't know. I wish I had the answers.

David:
Is this it for today as far as hypnosis goes?

Harold:
She has had enough hypnosis.

At that point, we decided to go after more “hard” data.

Fred:
The Bible that you handed to the leader, Quazgaa—what happened? Did they give you back your Bible?

Betty:
I don't know, because all I remember seeing is that blue book there. So they must have kept it.

Fred:
They must have kept your Bible?

Betty:
Well, I don't know if it's my Bible. We had many Bibles. Becky couldn't find her Bible afterward.

Becky:
I told my mom that it was missing.

Fred:
Do you remember when?

Becky:
Sunday school. I took it to Sunday school every Sunday.

Fred:
It could have been her Bible, and they probably took it. Is that what you think?

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